shmooptyParticipant02/29/2016 at 08:45Post count: 45
I should have one in 3-12 business days.
I imagine that, with it having a 64 bit processor, it should run a Pi 2 RetroPie image fine, but would show improved performance if everything is built from scratch? That or compiler errors?
Assuming that my Pi3 really arrives, is there something in particular that I can report on, in the interest of contributing back to this project?smartroadParticipant02/29/2016 at 08:58Post count: 76
I’d like to know how well the n64 and PSP emulators work :D Oh and maybe the Saturn one to HehesimonParticipant02/29/2016 at 09:20Post count: 3
Will it actually run the RetroPie image for Raspberry Pi 2?kahnindustriesParticipant02/29/2016 at 10:08Post count: 9
Ha, came here to make a tongue in cheek post demanding that the Pi 3 version should be out already :D
Mine will be here tomorrowshoothereParticipant02/29/2016 at 10:11Post count: 131
My guess is a new build will be required for the 64bit architecture. I wonder how much driver issues this will be accompanied with.
I guess herb isn’t getting any time off soon :p
Ordered mine so if I can help test I will!petrockblogKeymaster02/29/2016 at 11:32Post count: 1827petrockblogKeymaster02/29/2016 at 11:33Post count: 1827
There will be no “rpi3” build – the rpi2 code will used currently. if raspbian do a 64bit version of the os, this may change.shoothereParticipant02/29/2016 at 12:12Post count: 131
Even without a specific 64bit build the speed gain should be noticeable.
Also wondering how far it overclocks now.ronoh55Participant02/29/2016 at 12:22Post count: 82
The “safe” overclock for the pi2 is 1.0 Ghz, so my guess will be 1.3-1.5 will be the “safe” overclock for the pi3. I’m just hoping this helps big time with the n64 and psp emulations!InsecureSpikeParticipant02/29/2016 at 12:36Post count: 571
this may mean i’ll have to look into setting up the N64 tomorro to test, are there any vital topics/threads i’ll need to read up on?ronoh55Participant02/29/2016 at 12:40Post count: 82
Best bet is probably the wiki page on it: https://github.com/retropie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Nintendo-64brunnisParticipant02/29/2016 at 12:45Post count: 11
Very few of his comments regarding the speed improvement of the Pi 3 vs the Pi 2 seem to add up. His tables say one thing and his comments say another. How about this, taken from the article’s MemTester section:
2 Model B 23 minutes 39.07 seconds
3 Model B 8 minutes 37.078 seconds
“In this case the Pi 3 is more than 50% faster than the Pi 2 at allocating and accessing RAM.”
While technically true, the actual performance improvement is 174%. :-PInsecureSpikeParticipant02/29/2016 at 12:46Post count: 571
[quote=118521]Best bet is probably the wiki page on it: https://github.com/retropie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Nintendo-64
ok, thanks matepetrockblogKeymaster02/29/2016 at 14:14Post count: 1827dankcushionsParticipant02/29/2016 at 15:04Post count: 432
bought! pretty incremental improvement but i think a few things should be pushed over the line as most things we deal with are CPU-bound. i’m hopeful for powerdrive and afterburner type games running better/perfect, PSX at double-resolution mode with no slowdown, and N64 improvements (maybe even becomes ok to use GlideN64 plugin all the time?), but the lack of GLES3 is a shame. no vulkan or anything like that.shoothereParticipant02/29/2016 at 15:12Post count: 131
Well on a non-overclocked system it is a 30% processor increase.
Not quite sure how and if a 64bit release of the emulators will matter but hey, they will never hurt I guess.
Silly question: will 64bit apps run on a 32bit OS? I remember OSX running stuff 64bit while the actual kernel was still 32bit.cfx69Participant02/29/2016 at 15:35Post count: 24
Just ordered one as well. Excited to see where things progress in the future with the new capabilities.
C..brunnisParticipant02/29/2016 at 15:41Post count: 11
[quote=118555]Well on a non-overclocked system it is a 30% processor increase.[/quote]
No, it’s actually roughly a 60% increase. If it was just a clock frequency increase, you’d be right. However, the Pi 3 uses a different and improved CPU core (Cortex-A53), which by itself improves performance by roughly 25%. In some cases (and with recompiled code), the performance improvement should be even larger.FloobMember02/29/2016 at 15:45Post count: 1629
Bought. Hopefully here tomorrow.
I like the sound of the inbuilt Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. I’ll have to see if it happily works with the 8bitdo controllers.shoothereParticipant02/29/2016 at 15:55Post count: 131
Well on a non-overclocked system it is a 30% processor increase.
No, it’s actually roughly a 60% increase. If it was just a clock frequency increase, you’d be right. However, the Pi 3 uses a different and improved CPU core (Cortex-A53), which by itself improves performance by roughly 25%. In some cases (and with recompiled code), the performance improvement should be even larger.
Yeah I was (without much dedication I must admit) trying to look up the specs to the Pi2 chip to compare but gave up :P
I sort of like the yearly releases (are they yearly?) as they sort of give me something to look forward to. The past 30 years are slow but every years we get faster!AnonymousInactive02/29/2016 at 16:42Post count: 1
I’m trying to boot a card with Retropie 3.5 on my pi3. No luck.. Took it from my pi2. Maybe there’s something I need to tweak or it might not work.. ?petrockblogKeymaster02/29/2016 at 16:56Post count: 1827
make sure you update it on the rpi2 first (sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade).
I can’t advise further until I receive mine.g0nz0ukParticipant02/29/2016 at 18:31Post count: 310
What site are you using to buy the pi3, I need to make sure the psu is a good one this time?
ThanksretroresolutionParticipant02/29/2016 at 19:11Post count: 25
Ordered mine from RS Components in the UK today, hopefully being delivered tomorrow.
Really hoping for full-speed 32X, enhanced resolution PlayStation on most or all games, and more playable n64 titles.
If I can help with testing, please let me know.cfx69Participant02/29/2016 at 19:13Post count: 24
[quote=118588]What site are you using to buy the pi3, I need to make sure the psu is a good one this time?
Guess that would depend on where in the world you are.
I’m in the US and ordered from canakit as no one else had them in stock when I ordered.
mcmelectronics has it listed but server is dragging so I can’t see if it’s in stock.
C..labelwhoreParticipant02/29/2016 at 19:15Post count: 526
It was in stock on MCM when I looked a little bit ago, but shipping was $8. I decided to wait until they’re a little more readily available.retrofreddeParticipant02/29/2016 at 19:19Post count: 34
Hmm, 64bit architecture, will this affect the compatibility with old emulators or will it just increase the performance?
Anyhow, can’t say no to a new Raspberry pi, so, bought! :)retroresolutionParticipant02/29/2016 at 19:20Post count: 25
Forgot to add, I’ll run extensive overclock tests as per my previous runs on the Pi 2:kronspliffsParticipant02/29/2016 at 21:52Post count: 2
Well this makes me happy, and sad. I just bought my fisrt Pi bout 3 weeks ago…retroresolutionParticipant02/29/2016 at 22:06Post count: 25
I’ll bet – it’s odd that the Pi 3 just suddenly arrived – maybe people were ‘in the know’ given the Pi 2 released same time last year, but first I heard a about it was an email this morning from The Pi Hut.
Thought I’d better get one quick in case of the usual supply/demand issues (that said RS Components showed 17,000 in stock this afternoon…)shmooptyParticipant02/29/2016 at 22:36Post count: 45
It sounds like a great excuse to make a new project from last month’s Pi.
Perhaps you know of a car that needs a touchscreen Kodi console? That bathroom mirror could become one of those smart mirrors.
If you have a Pi 2 now, the 3 will fit in the same cases.AnonymousInactive03/01/2016 at 15:27Post count: 15
Agreed a bit strange how they just suddenly released this with no mention or hype. I only bought my Pi2 in December. Am ordering Pi3 from RS Online. At least i can use the case/fan from my Pi2.
I’m just hoping the built in Bluetooth will finally resolve everyones bluetooth problems, and just maybe the N64/Dreamcast emulator will be able to run smoothly for Goldeneye/Virtua Tennis! Fingers crossed.
@Floob will you be updating the Wiki for set up on Pi3? Is there any talk of building retropie with 64 bit architecture?dankcushionsParticipant03/01/2016 at 15:39Post count: 432
a 64-bit version of raspian (the underlying OS) would need to be be released first, and there doesn’t seem to be any immediate plans for that that i can find.retroresolutionParticipant03/01/2016 at 18:45Post count: 25
My Pi 3 and uprated PSU have a arrived (2.5a, 5v). Want to get cracking, but can’t just yet – frustrating!
[Edit] apologies for the rotation on the pictures – look okay on the tablet, but must be a meta-flag only, leaving some of the photos sideways or upside down…retroresolutionParticipant03/01/2016 at 18:53Post count: 25
If GoldenEye runs at a playable framerate I’ll be ecstatic…
I’d like some idea of the overclock thresholds before I start turning up the speed.
If there’s no imminent new Raspbian build then I can’t look to rasbpi-config for guidance. I’d better start googling.
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