How do I add another MAME emulator Version?

[caver01]

I am using ADVMAME, and I love the flexibility of the runcommand to allow me to pick 0.94 and 1.4, but I need to add 1.2. Is it possible to add another folder to the advance-mame structure? I understand the config folder will also have to accommodate this, but what else do I need to change to enable a third advancemame in the runcommand?

[petrockblog]

why do you need 1.2 over 1.4 ?

[caver01]

With 1.2 I can configure 1280×1024 resolution for vector games.

[petrockblog]

Should be doable with 1.4 then also, but I thought it was set to 640×480 when using fb driver with our current modifications.

What config were you using?

[caver01]

Glad you asked! I have tried for weeks to get 1.4 to play vector games at my native resolution with no luck. Last year, after many late nights with PiPlay, I was able to get native resolution on Vector games using 1.2 and this config. So, with RetroPie I finally tried a test with the pre-compiled advmame 1.2 executable from my other SD card (running PiPlay) and simply replaced the advmame .94 binary as a test. This was a feeble attempt at leveraging at least some runcommand flexibility–use 1.4 for most stuff, but for vector games, I could select .94 and know that it was actually running the 1.2 advmame I copied over.

My .94 swap is kludgy, and I don’t get much traction with other posts on this topic which is why I did the test. When it worked, I figured maybe I could just get 1.2 setup properly with runcommand support. I am still willing to try suggestions, but I have already tried this config (corrected the paths) to no avail in 1.4. Could there be a difference in the retropie-compiled versions of 1.4 that specifically prevents 1280×1024? On a previous post, you seemed to suggest thats the case. But, with the coming changes possibly to the default resolutions in RetroPie, I am definitely interested in making this work well. Once you have seen the crisp vector lines, it’s hard to go back to blurry 640×480 for vector classics.

Here’s my 1.2 config (game-specific input mapping removed):

display_mode auto
display_adjust generate_yclock
device_video_clock 60-150 / 30-80 / 60
device_video_format 33630 0.814815 0 0.111111 0.0740741 0.914286 0.0196429 0.00357143 0.0625
device_video_modeline FULLSCREEN 105.37 1280 1336 1512 1568 1024 1046 1050 1120 -hsync -vsync
debug_crash no
debug_rawsound no
debug_speedmark no
device_alsa_device default
device_alsa_mixer channel
device_color_bgr15 no
device_color_bgr16 yes
device_color_bgr24 no
device_color_bgr32 no
device_color_bgr8 no
device_color_palette8 no
device_color_yuy2 no
device_joystick auto
device_keyboard raw
device_mouse raw
device_raw_firstkeyhack no
device_raw_mousedev[0] /dev/input/mouse0
device_raw_mousedev[1] /dev/input/mouse1
device_raw_mousedev[2] /dev/input/mouse2
device_raw_mousedev[3] auto
device_raw_mousetype[0] ps2
device_raw_mousetype[1] ps2
device_raw_mousetype[2] ps2
device_raw_mousetype[3] ps2
device_sdl_samples 512
device_sound auto
device_video auto
device_video_cursor auto
device_video_doublescan yes
device_video_fastchange no
device_video_interlace yes
device_video_output auto
device_video_singlescan yes
dir_artwork /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/artwork:/opt/retropie/configs/mame-advmame/artwork
dir_diff /home/pi/.advance/diff
dir_hi /home/pi/.advance/hi
dir_image /home/pi/.advance/image:/opt/retropie/emulators/advmame/0.94.0/share/advance/image
dir_inp /home/pi/.advance/inp
dir_memcard /home/pi/.advance/memcard
dir_nvram /home/pi/.advance/nvram
dir_rom /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame
dir_sample /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/samples
dir_snap /home/pi/.advance/snap
dir_sta /home/pi/.advance/sta
display_artwork_backdrop yes
display_artwork_bezel no
display_artwork_crop yes
display_artwork_overlay yes
display_aspectx 5
display_aspecty 4
display_brightness 1
display_buffer yes
display_color auto
display_expand 1
display_flipx no
display_flipy no
display_frameskip 0.5
display_gamma 1.0
display_interlaceeffect none
display_magnify 4
display_pausebrightness 0.6
display_resize fractional
display_resizeeffect filter
display_restore yes
display_rgbeffect triad6dot
display_rol no
display_ror no
display_scanlines no
display_skipcolumns auto
display_skiplines auto
display_vsync yes
vector/display_mode FULLSCREEN
vector/display_translucency yes
vector/display_intensity 3.0
vector/display_antialias yes
vector/display_beam 1.2
vector/display_flicker .1
vector/display_adjust none
vector/display_magnify 2
vector/display_rgbeffect none
vector/display_resizeeffect none
vector/device_video_output fullscreen
vector/display_resize fractional
vertical/display_ror yes
include 
input_hotkey yes
input_idleexit 0
input_map[coin5] auto
input_map[coin6] auto
input_map[coin7] auto
input_map[coin8] auto
input_map[event10] auto
input_map[event11] auto
input_map[event12] auto
input_map[event13] auto
input_map[event14] auto
input_map[event1] auto
input_map[event2] auto
input_map[event3] auto
input_map[event4] auto
input_map[event5] auto
input_map[event6] auto
input_map[event7] auto
input_map[event8] auto
input_map[event9] auto
input_map[p1_dialx] mouse[0,x]
input_map[p1_dialy] auto
input_map[p1_lightgunx] auto
input_map[p1_lightguny] auto
input_map[p1_mousex] auto
input_map[p1_mousey] auto
input_map[p1_paddlex] auto
input_map[p1_paddley] auto
input_map[p1_pedalbrake] auto
input_map[p1_pedalgas] auto
input_map[p1_pedalother] auto
input_map[p1_stickx] auto
input_map[p1_sticky] auto
input_map[p1_stickz] auto
input_map[p1_trackballx] mouse[0,x] mouse[1,x] mouse[2,x]
input_map[p1_trackbally] mouse[0,y] mouse[1,y] mouse[2,y]
input_map[p2_dialx] -mouse[0,y]
input_map[p2_dialy] auto
input_map[p2_lightgunx] auto
input_map[p2_lightguny] auto
input_map[p2_mousex] auto
input_map[p2_mousey] auto
input_map[p2_paddlex] auto
input_map[p2_paddley] auto
input_map[p2_pedalbrake] auto
input_map[p2_pedalgas] auto
input_map[p2_pedalother] auto
input_map[p2_stickx] auto
input_map[p2_sticky] auto
input_map[p2_stickz] auto
input_map[p2_trackballx] mouse[0,x] mouse[1,x] mouse[2,x]
input_map[p2_trackbally] mouse[0,y] mouse[1,y] mouse[2,y]
input_map[p3_dialx] auto
input_map[p3_dialy] auto
input_map[p3_lightgunx] auto
input_map[p3_lightguny] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_a] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_b] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_bet] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_c] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_chance] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_chi] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_d] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_double_up] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_e] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_f] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_flip_flop] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_g] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_h] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_i] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_j] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_k] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_kan] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_l] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_m] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_n] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_pon] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_reach] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_ron] auto
input_map[p3_mahjong_score] auto
input_map[p3_mousex] auto
input_map[p3_mousey] auto
input_map[p3_paddlex] auto
input_map[p3_paddley] auto
input_map[p3_pedalbrake] auto
input_map[p3_pedalgas] auto
input_map[p3_pedalother] auto
input_map[p3_stickx] auto
input_map[p3_sticky] auto
input_map[p3_stickz] auto
input_map[p3_trackballx] auto
input_map[p3_trackbally] auto
input_map[p4_dialx] auto
input_map[p4_dialy] auto
input_map[p4_lightgunx] auto
input_map[p4_lightguny] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_a] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_b] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_bet] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_c] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_chance] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_chi] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_d] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_double_up] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_e] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_f] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_flip_flop] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_g] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_h] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_i] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_j] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_k] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_kan] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_l] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_m] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_n] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_pon] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_reach] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_ron] auto
input_map[p4_mahjong_score] auto
input_map[p4_mousex] auto
input_map[p4_mousey] auto
input_map[p4_paddlex] auto
input_map[p4_paddley] auto
input_map[p4_pedalbrake] auto
input_map[p4_pedalgas] auto
input_map[p4_pedalother] auto
input_map[p4_stickx] auto
input_map[p4_sticky] auto
input_map[p4_stickz] auto
input_map[p4_trackballx] auto
input_map[p4_trackbally] auto
input_map[safequit] auto
input_map[service_coin5] auto
input_map[service_coin6] auto
input_map[service_coin7] auto
input_map[service_coin8] auto
input_map[ui_toggle_ui] auto
input_steadykey no
lcd_server none
lcd_speed 4
lcd_timeout 500
misc_bios default
misc_cheat no
misc_cheatfile cheat.dat
misc_difficulty none
misc_eventdebug no
misc_eventfile event.dat
misc_freeplay no
misc_hiscorefile hiscore.dat
misc_lang none
misc_languagefile english.lng
misc_mutedemo no
misc_quiet yes
misc_safequit yes
misc_smp no
misc_timetorun 0
record_sound no
record_sound_time 15
record_video no
record_video_interleave 2
record_video_time 15
script_coin1 
script_coin2 
script_coin3 
script_coin4 
script_emulation 
script_event1 
script_event10 
script_event11 
script_event12 
script_event13 
script_event14 
script_event2 
script_event3 
script_event4 
script_event5 
script_event6 
script_event7 
script_event8 
script_event9 
script_led1 on(kdb, 0b1); wait(!event()); off(kdb, 0b1);
script_led2 on(kdb, 0b10); wait(!event()); off(kdb, 0b10);
script_led3 
script_play 
script_safequit 
script_start1 
script_start2 
script_start3 
script_start4 
script_turbo while (event()) { toggle(kdb, 0b100); delay(100); } off(kdb, 0b100);
script_video wait(!event()); set(kdb, 0);
sound_adjust auto
sound_equalizer_highvolume 0
sound_equalizer_lowvolume 0
sound_equalizer_midvolume 0
sound_latency 0.05
sound_mode auto
sound_normalize no
sound_samplerate 44100
sound_samples yes
sound_volume 0
sync_fps auto
sync_resample auto
sync_speed 1
sync_startuptime auto
sync_turbospeed 3
ui_color[help_other] 000000 808080
ui_color[help_p1] 000000 ffff00
ui_color[help_p2] 000000 00ff00
ui_color[help_p3] 000000 ff0000
ui_color[help_p4] 000000 00ffff
ui_color[interface] 000000 ffffff
ui_color[select] 000000 afffff
ui_color[tag] 247ef0 ffffff
ui_font auto
ui_fontsize auto
ui_helpimage auto
ui_translucency 0.8
input_map[p1_up] keyboard[0,up]
input_map[p1_down] keyboard[0,down]
input_map[p1_right] keyboard[0,right]
input_map[p1_left] keyboard[0,left]
input_map[p1_button1] keyboard[0,lcontrol]
input_map[p1_button2] keyboard[0,lalt]
input_map[p1_button3] keyboard[0,space]
input_map[p1_button4] keyboard[0,lshift]
input_map[p1_button5] keyboard[0,z]
input_map[p1_button6] keyboard[0,x]
input_map[p1_button7] 
input_map[p1_button8] 
input_map[p2_up] keyboard[0,r]
input_map[p2_down] keyboard[0,f]
input_map[p2_right] keyboard[0,g]
input_map[p2_left] keyboard[0,d]
input_map[p2_button1] keyboard[0,a]
input_map[p2_button2] keyboard[0,s]
input_map[p2_button3] keyboard[0,q]
input_map[p2_button4] keyboard[0,w]
input_map[p2_button5] keyboard[0,i]
input_map[p2_button6] keyboard[0,k]
input_map[p2_button7] 
input_map[p2_button8] 
input_map[p1_doubleleft_up] keyboard[0,j]
input_map[p1_doubleleft_down] keyboard[0,l]
input_map[p1_doubleleft_right] keyboard[0,i]
input_map[p1_doubleleft_left] keyboard[0,k]
input_map[p1_doubleright_up] keyboard[0,up]
input_map[p1_doubleright_down] keyboard[0,down]
input_map[p1_doubleright_right] keyboard[0,right]
input_map[p1_doubleright_left] keyboard[0,left]
vertical/input_dipswitch[cabinet] cocktailinvaderl/input_dipswitch[cabinet] cocktail
292x240/display_rgbeffect triadstrong6dot
320x224/display_rgbeffect triadstrong6dot
512x480/display_rgbeffect triadstrong6dot
292x240x60/display_rgbeffect triadstrong6dot
292x240x60/display_magnify 3
292x240/display_magnify 3
240x248/display_rgbeffect triadstrong6dot
240x248/display_magnify 3
224x288/display_rgbeffect triadstrong6dot
224x288/display_magnify 3
294x239/display_rgbeffect triadstrong6dot
294x239/display_magnify 3
336x240/display_rgbeffect triadstrong3dot
336x240/display_magnify 3
512x480x30/display_rgbeffect none
512x480x30/display_resize integer
512x480x30/display_magnify 1
292x240/display_mode generate-quad
292x240/display_resize mixed
512x480x30/display_mode generate
512x480x30/display_vsync no
224x256/display_mode generate-quad
224x256/display_rgbeffect triadstrong6dot
224x256/display_magnify 3
384x224x60/display_mode generate
384x224x60/display_rgbeffect none
400x254x53/display_mode generate
400x254x53/display_rgbeffect none
480x464x60/display_mode generate-double
480x464x60/display_resizeeffect filter
480x464x60/display_rgbeffect triadstrong3dot
224x288x60/display_resize mixed
224x288/display_resize mixed
224x256x60/display_rgbeffect triad6dot
input_map[p1_button9] 
input_map[p1_button10] 
input_map[p2_doubleright_up] keyboard[0,u]
input_map[p2_doubleright_down] keyboard[0,v]
input_map[p2_doubleright_left] keyboard[0,y]
input_map[p2_doubleright_right] keyboard[0,n]
input_map[p2_doubleleft_up] keyboard[0,r]
input_map[p2_doubleleft_down] keyboard[0,f]
input_map[p2_doubleleft_left] keyboard[0,d]
input_map[p2_doubleleft_right] keyboard[0,g]
input_map[p2_button9] 
input_map[p2_button10] 
input_map[p3_up] keyboard[1,scan0]
input_map[p3_down] keyboard[0,k]
input_map[p3_left] keyboard[0,j]
input_map[p3_right] keyboard[0,l]
input_map[p3_button1] keyboard[0,rcontrol]
input_map[p3_button2] keyboard[0,rshift]
input_map[p3_button3] keyboard[0,enter]
input_map[p3_button4] keyboard[0,o]
input_map[p3_button5] 
input_map[p3_button6] 
input_map[p3_button7] 
input_map[p3_button8] 
input_map[p3_button9] 
input_map[p3_button10] 
input_map[p4_up] keyboard[1,scan0]
input_map[p4_down] keyboard[0,n]
input_map[p4_left] keyboard[0,v]
input_map[p4_right] keyboard[0,u]
input_map[p4_button1] keyboard[0,b]
input_map[p4_button2] keyboard[0,e]
input_map[p4_button3] keyboard[0,h]
input_map[p4_button4] keyboard[0,m]
input_map[p4_button5] 
input_map[p4_button6] 
input_map[p4_button7] 
input_map[p4_button8] 
input_map[p4_button9] 
input_map[p4_button10] keyboard[0,down]
input_map[ui_up] keyboard[0,up] or keyboard[0,i] or keyboard[0,up]
input_map[ui_down] keyboard[0,down] or keyboard[0,k] or keyboard[0,down]
input_map[ui_left] keyboard[0,left] or keyboard[0,j] or keyboard[0,left]
input_map[ui_right] keyboard[0,right] or keyboard[0,l] or keyboard[0,right]
input_map[ui_select] keyboard[0,enter] or keyboard[0,1] or keyboard[0,3]
vertical/input_map[p1_right] keyboard[0,l]
vertical/input_map[p1_left] keyboard[0,j]
vertical/input_map[p1_up] keyboard[0,i]
vertical/input_map[p1_down] keyboard[0,k]
vertical/input_map[p1_button1] keyboard[0,rcontrol]
vertical/input_map[p1_button2] keyboard[0,rshift]
vertical/input_map[p1_button3] keyboard[0,enter]
vertical/input_map[p1_button4] keyboard[0,o]
vertical/input_map[p2_right] keyboard[0,u]
vertical/input_map[p2_left] keyboard[0,v]
vertical/input_map[p2_up] keyboard[0,y]
vertical/input_map[p2_down] keyboard[0,n]
vertical/input_map[p2_button1] keyboard[0,b]
vertical/input_map[p2_button2] keyboard[0,e]
vertical/input_map[p2_button3] keyboard[0,h]
vertical/input_map[p2_button4] keyboard[0,m]
vertical/input_map[start1] keyboard[0,3]
vertical/input_map[start2] keyboard[0,4]
vertical/input_map[coin1] keyboard[0,7] or keyboard[0,8]

[petrockblog]

Are you able to provide a smaller config that works based off the default shipped config with just the required changes ? For example in your config above you have things like “device_video_clock” which don’t get used with our version of advmame – it will be easier for me to work with then.

[petrockblog]

BTW advmame 0.94 / 1.2 were reworked in March 2015 so the modeline definitions were not needed (they make no sense on the RPI), and it automatically generates some built in modes based off the game resolution. Is it possible the advmame you are using is older than that as I would have thought 1.2 and 1.4 would behave the same.

[caver01]

Both good questions. The 1.2 came from the PiPlay image. I didn’t compile it. As for a smaller config based on a default– I can use 1.2 to generate a default and work from there, but the whole point of this is that I never could get 1.4 run in high resolution by adding any of these config settings. It’s possible I have configs that don’t have any effect–I tried all kinds of ideas before I got it working. I expect this exercise may be easier if I start taking away lines until it stops working.

[petrockblog]

ok that is completely different from our 1.2 then and you will probably have the same problem (but it has the problem you have to set up modelines, and there are a few cases where they cause problems as it thinks a certain mode won’t be supported). currently it isn’t possible to have higher res vector games but I may tweak this when I get a chance (requires some additional code)

[petrockblog]

you can add additional emulators in /opt/retropie/configs/mame-advmame/emulators.cfg btw

[petrockblog]

I have made some changes to the advmame emulators – the vector width and height is now configurable in the config file – please give it a test

you need to update retropie-setup and re-install advmame from binary. then you can configure the width/height with the option “display_width” and “display_height” (they default to 640 / 480)

[caver01]

Fantastic! I can’t wait to try it. Thanks so much. I will let you know. I assume this is for 1.4?

[petrockblog]

0.94 and 1.4

[caver01]

Even better!

So, I tried both and they work great. I set my width and height in the configs as you described. It preserved the game’s aspect ratio (I think it was 1280×960) which is perfect–exactly what the other version of 1.2 was doing with the proper modelines and so on. I adjusted my intensity up a bit to 1.75 and set the flicker to 15. This is right where I like it, and it looks very nice, and crisp. All of the lines are native-pixel-smooth. I tested with asteroids deluxe.

One thing I did notice is that if you increase the beam width (I don’t like to do that, but to each their own) single points (shots, asteroid particles) render as vertical lines, not upsized dots. I don’t remember if it was like that before or not, since I use a size of 1, but it’s worth a mention.

This is great. Thank you so much! About the only thing better would be the addition of glow effect like the old AAE emulator, but this is much better than being stuck at 640×480.

Is this limitation also a factor with raster games? There are RGB effects 3-triad, 6-triad, and scanlines that look better at higher resolution too–not for vector of course, but for other games. If not, that’s fine. I am happy with clean vector!

[petrockblog]

if you want scanlines etc (and shaders to make the picture look like a crt) you should try a libretro mame emulator.

[caver01]

Thanks. I am planning to do that. It’s a lot to learn, but I am getting there.

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