yea it was weird… on the next rebot the friggin controllers came alive! they blinked, RUMBELED! and leds setteled on the #1 and #2 lights…. HAPPY FACE!!! only other thing I had to do was add the MAC addresses at the end of the descriptions of joysticks in the es_input.cfg

anyway last step for me to set the analog sticks… thanks again to everyone who worked on this solution. I do understand the effort it takes to do this stuff..